Departing from our usual programming of profiling Nazi dirtbags, in this post we will cover the reality-show-esque drama regarding white nationalist organization The National Justice Party (NJP) and its affiliated podcast network The Right Stuff (TRS). Neo-Naziism and white supremacy is no laughing matter but the total meltdown of longstanding neo-Nazi podcast network TRS and their fake political party has been such a bonanza of batshit, that all one can do is laugh.
The NJP is a Pennsylvania limited liability company that operates under the pretense of a political party headed by Michael "Mike Enoch" Peinovich and stemmed from the TRS podcast network. TRS's flagship podcast was "The Daily Shoah," hosted by Peinovich and long-time partner-in-Naziism and wannabe rocker Jesse Dunstan, (known as “Sven,” “Seventh Son,” and “Bjorn”).
What happened: Dunstan, a Hawley, Pennsylvania resident, took to the podwaves for an absolutely epic hours-long drunken meltdown on the podcast of Australian neo-Nazi dirtbag Ryan Johnson, aka "Randbot." Dunstan went on a pity party after feeling underappraciated for his activities in the group. The result? Lots of spilt tea, dirty laundry and hurt feelings.
Dunstan dishes on Peinovich and others involved in NJP and TRS, talks about how TRS is a cash cow and how he wanted a "fake job doing a podcast three times a week." For some hot takes on this whole business please see our lovely spokesperson @AnonCommieStan's thread on Xwitter (link).
Our team of highly dedicated anonymous comrades sacrificed their ears to compile a transcript from some of the juicier portions of that drunken word-vomit. If you have the inclination, go ahead and read about these very racist, highly dysfunctional grifters. Here are fourteen words for you: "We must secure the existence of fake jobs and a future for our paychecks." About sums it up!
Your baby failed (5h-31m-49s)
Jesse Dunstan 00:04
I want to say like hold on there's like somebody named [crosstalk] "Go back to Guitar Center, Sven. Striker held up your neck for the last year." Like, no he didn't. For the past year, Striker didn't do shit. Striker went and lived on Telegram looking for fights with people. Striker showed up to Strike and Mike unprepared. Mike carried that show for the last year without input from Striker. Striker is fucking nothing. Striker is riding fucking fattened on his beer gut of fucking unhealthy living and and fucking momentum from years past where anyone cared about what he had to say. Striker did not carry shit. You need to get over your your e-celeb worship, or you need to convert to e-celeb worshiping me, because I'm awesome. And Striker is not even white. [laughter] Hold on. I have a wife and kids and a house and a fucking business. You have shit. Striker has jack shit. Striker has a fucking god awful crap apartment in Pittsburgh with no fucking furniture in it and a woman that I don't know how she fucking stick with him because he's so fucking pathetic and filthy. And he might – they might as well be homeless and now that like he's not working for me, he's probably gonna be homeless. So fuck that. The problem with Strike and Mike it's like, it's like, Mike and a guy who doesn't know what's going on. That's been the past year of Strike and Mike. So fuck off. Eric Striker has been soaking up a paycheck from me, he doesn't deserve, for six fucking years. The only thing it's done for me is attract weird fanboys that can't get over the cartoon character of Eric Striker that tell me "oh it's a big bad deal that he's leaving now." Fuck him. I never needed him. And my fucking website is worse off for having him on board. But, whatever, Mike wanted to do that as a side project. And again, when Mike does a side project, it fails. Strike and Mike failed. NJP failed. TRS is the shit. I don't owe anything to anybody. Nothing. All right, no one. No one comes close to what I fucking accomplished since 2015 in this fucking movement. Everyone's a faker. Everyone either fucking siphons themself off into like fake and gay Republican shit. Or they become sort of just like drama niggers. No one has stayed as pure as myself and TRS. Mike is the heart – Mike is the
heart and soul of all this shit. And I take Mike and I fucking support him. Everybody else is a fucking parasite on Mike.
Randbot 02:54
Except Alex.
Jesse Dunstan 02:54
Eric Striker is the biggest parasite Mike has ever had. Because Eric Striker thinks that Mike is the parasite on him, and fuck that. Eric Striker, you are a faker. You're a Mexican, you're a Puerto Rican, and you're a fucking pretend national socialist. You're a fucking libertarian. You are an individualist. You are out for yourself in your – and your fucking opportunistic snipes at the fall of the NJP, which you said NJP is your baby Striker. And guess what happened to your baby? It's stillborn. Your baby fucking failed. You want to take credit for this? Fine NJP was your baby? It completely shat the bed. Your baby sucks dicks. Your fucking baby is a baby with a dick in its mouth, Striker. NJP fucking strangled at birth. Actually would have been better off strangled at birth. The problem was it was allowed to fucking live for three and a half years. Your baby lived to be three and a half and it died. Why? Because you were on it. Because you don't know what the fuck you're doing on any level of interpersonal fucking relationships with anybody. People you work with. That will support you. You're jack shit. You're a fucking e-celeb. You're the worst kind of e-celeb. Your the e-celeb that as soon as somebody fucking gets to know you. people realize "Oh god, I'm involved with a giant fucking fraud." So fuck you.
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You liked the idea of Eric Striker(4h-08m-40s)
Jesse Dunstan 00:07
So Striker wanted to be in charge because no one was a defeat strikers are capable of being in charge. Ok? Striker is a delinquent. Striker is a non functional human being or a barely functional human being. The… People… You have to, you have to understand, like, Striker's content is great. Striker's ideology is great. But this idea that he's this great man you [unintelligble] up to, it's just not true. He cannot lead people he cannot get anyone to do what they want. He is constantly- he's constantly complaining of this to Mike that, like, I when I have something that I want someone to do, I go ask them to do it and I cannot get them to do it, it's like yes it's because you're an asshole and no one wants to listen to you. The very demeanor with which you come to somebody with I have this thing for you to do, and they're like, "no fuck you what the fuck is your problem?" It's because you're just – he's – there is no… Striker wanted to be in charge of NJP because Striker can't not be in charge. Striker cannot work- He cannot be a team player. He's a libertarian. It's all about him. He's a rugged individualist.
Randbot 01:07
And that's the thing.
Jesse Dunstan 01:07
He talks the talk. [Crosstalk] Let me just finish. He talks the talk about national socialism, but he is an anarcho capitalist. It's all about him and what he wants. As soon as you disagree with him, you're a fed. You are a subversive, you're working against him. You're in a grand, you're in a grand conspiracy to deny him whatever it is he wants. You cannot work with the man. This will be evidenced by the fact that whenever he tries to start anything up, like what he's trying to do with Wolfshield right now. It just will go nowhere because as soon as the- as soon as the rubber starts to hit the road, he's gonna freak out at somebody.
Randbot 01:15
What the fuck is Wolfshield?
[Editors note– This is "Wolfshield": Joshua Randle of Grand Rapids, Minnesota]
Jesse Dunstan 01:45
Don't worry about it. Anyone who's in anybody anybody in anybody who's involved in that will hear what I just said. You'll know, and you're on notice. It's not going to work out. [Crosstalk.] No, it's fine. It's fine. Don't worry about it.
Randbot 01:58
All right. Well, I was gonna say like…
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Where did the money go, NJLLC (5h-17m-59s)
Jesse Dunstan 00:04
[unintelligible] Scott Jaunty is asking, "So where did all the money go, then? Don't play fucking stupid. People sent thousands." I don't know where you get the idea that people sent a lot of money to NJP. But I will tell you, I did not to get a dime of it. So I don't know. And I'm sure that something is going to be done with that money. And anyone who's a supporter currently do not renew your supporter thing. Because they're… they… that's- that's not going to be going
forward, like the supporter program. Where'd all the money go, then? I don't know. I'm not party to that. Did not go to me.
Randbot 00:46
You would have seen [unintelligible] sitting in that account, right?
Jesse Dunstan 00:49
[Crosstalk] I don't know, it was, I don't know if it was expence. I know that Tony was allowing himself to have a very nice salary. I know that he'd like to expense a lot of things. I know, Tony was living high on the hog with this. And that was sort of at the end of the road where where he had to go, but I cannot really describe or I can't really fill you in on that. Because, again, the dispute between Mike and Tony right now is Tony is someone who has been fired from this corporation that Mike owns. And it's, it's not completely resolved yet. But if there- you know, I don't know what they're going to do. But. What was the other thing I was gonna say? Oh, that reminds me. You know that the thing that sticks in my craw about this sometimes is people-I've seen people criticize the NJP for being an LLC Corporation. I don't know if you understand like, that's the only kind of foot that's the only kind of corporate entity you can be in America that's allowed to be racist. That's why they're an LLC. Oh, god, did I get dis- did I get disconnected?
Randbot 02:10
Oh, no, no, no, we heard you. Everyone's Okay.
Jesse Dunstan 02:13
I heard I heard one of those weird like Telegram noise- or one of those weird Discord noises. [Crosstalk] Basically, there have been several like, myself and the upstate New York guys, we researched this as well as the original shitbag grifter named Nam that ran the Mannerbund also researched this. Like you can't be a 503 a 504 or 502, whatever. All like all those things out there that you can become that are like tax exempt? You can't be any of those and be racist. You can't be a whites only organization in a tax exempt form. Can't have a fraternity or brotherhood or, or anything. All you can be you can be a for-profit, which is not tax exempt. You can be a for profit, limited liability, limited liability corporation that does not have a storefront. And that's the only way you can be whites only because that's the only corporate entity out there where no one will probe you for that sort of shit. So the only other option is to be like an
FEC related like political party. If you do that, that means everyone that gives you money has to be doxed. So this is like- and I think people who've done that criticism know that and it's all in bad faith, but I just want to put it out put that out there. That like- [cuts off]
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They did not break 600 paid supporters (3h-44m-12s)
Jesse Dunstan 00:08
Anyway. The thing, the thing that – One of the things that I've seen is like another thing I've seen is like these narratives where it's like, it's like "This NJP committee member versus the other one, it's one or the other". It's like, no, it's not either/or. They all have to go. Everyone who has left was a huge problem, irrespective of whether or not they also correctly saw the flaws in the next guy. It's like they were all deeply flawed, and were all counterproductive and not capable of producing what they said they would produce. And the evidence of that is in the fact that it did not. They did not break 600 paid supporters in three and a half years.
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Sven's Defence of Mike Enoch
Jesse Dunstan 00:01
Alex will be absolutely ecstatic. Mike will be deeply Mike will deeply concerned, but it's part of his transition back to being on board with TRS and away from these poisonous people that dragged him away from his mission. Mike Enoch is the great – Mike Enoch is the voice of our generation. As far as white people go, Mike Enoch is the greatest. Mike Enoch has given the clarion call to white people everywhere. As far as our politics go, he is absolutely – he is beyond reproach. I don't care who his wife was, I don't care what these that is the reason why he is relentlessly attacked by Jewish agents on Telegram and, and, /pol/, it's because he's the most effective, he's the most consistent, and he is the greatest voice that our people have ever had. And he has to understand and he will understand the people he was involved with, are all trying to grift and parasite off his image, his notoriety, his analysis, his persona, and that his home was with TRS to do this, with me and with McNabb, through the Daily Shoah, everyone else to try to get a piece of him was simply that: trying to get a piece of him. And it was a mistake. And they got to him by puffing up his ego by telling him he was something more than what he was, which was a spokesman, they tried to tell him that he was Hitler. And when he when he did not live up to being Hitler. It emotionally crushed him. And it made me It broke my heart to watch him not live up to these impositions of expectations that people put on him. He's just a man who knows what he's talking about. To take a man who knows what he's talking about, and tell him that like, no, that's not where you're – that's not where your responsibility ends, your responsibility is you have to be a dictator. You have to be a leader for everyone. And he doesn't know what to do. And when he doesn't live up to that, when people don't accept the humanity of Mike Enoch, it hurts him and it hurts me. And these people who did that, to him are parasites and those people are Eric Striker and Warren Balogh. Because Warren Balogh is a great salesman, he's a great face of something, but he is not a leader. He is not a self starter. He's not someone who can come up with his own ideas. Someone needs to tell Warren Balogh what to think and what to do, and what strategy is and he can sell it to people. And he could not protect Mike. And these people had bad ideas for what Mike should do and it failed. I don't know how else – I don't know what else to say about that. Other than Mike is a luminary Mike is a brilliant political genius.
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Sven's take on Striker & Tony (4h-04m-40s)
Jesse Dunstan 00:04
That's just like holy fucking shit, are you kidding me? And then Striker, Striker is like, I must be in charge of this otherwise, otherwise I can't be a part of it. Striker like, "I will I will threaten to resign" like basically every other day until Mike finally says "okay, I accept your resignation, get out of my face." And then Tony, like basically like Tony, Tony's out, he's like, "I'm gonna fire. I'm gonna get rid of everyone, whoever has a question about what I'm doing. And we're going to do addition by subtra- by subtraction to the point where there's nothing left." Once all NJP is people who just do what Tony says, then NJP will win. It's like, well, what if you whittle that down to 200 people? What if, you know, 300 people? How's it supposed to grow? Then that was his mission. And the whole time Mike is just assuming that he's got all this authority delegated to people that are competent, and it's like, no, these people are all fucking you. You know? Until I come along and say, "Hey, Mike, these people we're all fucking you" and he goes and he asks around. Goes around and starts asking questions like, "oh, yeah, wow, these guys were all fucking me. Time to time to shut it down."
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Sven says it wasn't a scam, just no experience
Randbot 00:06
[Unintelligible] sent you 1488, and he says: "Sven, I'm sitting over here in my pool party. I don't believe for a second Mike – Mike and Warren are trying to screw-" No, no one's trying to screw anybody. "He made mistakes, sure, but he never came off to us as a scammer or crook. NJP in the end really brought me to the other like minded whites in the-" Yes, there's not- there's no scam here. This was done, this was done absolutely in, uh, it was done absolutely sincerely. I believe that. I always did. That's why they did it. They were totally sincere. It's just they don't- I don't know. Nobody, nobody involved in that had any experience, like doing this sort of thing, and I don't think any- I they think they're all very naive. They just, you know, something just had to happen. Remember? Do you remember the summer of 2020, Randbot? Do you remember the post George Floyd world?
Randbot 00:59
Yeah, you often
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Responding to Watchtower comments (5h-14m-02s)
Jesse Dunstan 00:06
So I want to say, The Watchtower he writes, "This wasn't a failure of fascism on your part, Sven. This was misuse of funds and donations, lies, backtracking, doublespeak cowardice, conflict avoidance, grifting, and no leadership. It wasn't Telegram. It wasn't white nationalism, or, or whatever else you want to blame. It was you, NJP, and TRS." First of all, I will say it was NJP, not TRS. Second of all, I will say, there was no grifting involved. There was no misuse of funds. There was cowardice, there was conflict avoidance, there was backtracking and doublespeak, and there was a lack of leadership. I want to tell you that the NJP was an honest endeavor that did the best that it could. Its best was not good enough. There was no grifting involved. Mike did not even take a salary from NJP. He did not take a dime from it. I don't know what's going to happen in the aftermath as this thing winds down, especially with Tony is basically trying to shake down [crosstalk] Mike for money. Tony thinks he's getting like the Mike… Tony thinks he's getting the "conflict avoidance Mike". He's actually getting the "Charlottesville Lawsuit Mike", so that's not gonna work for him very well. But um, no, there was no, there was no misuse of funds. There was everything was done on the up and up. And everyone was done- everything was done as honestly as possible. It just was basically done by people that were not qualified to do this. I started-
Speaker 1 01:36
It was a failure to be led by E celebs?
Jesse Dunstan 01:39
Yes.
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More shitting on Eric Striker (5h-25m-11s)
Jesse Dunstan 00:04
It's hanging in front of him. He's a shitbag and he's expanding forever. He's a fucking retard. Fuck him. Fuck Eric Striker in the wheelchair he rolled in on.
Randbot 00:14
Eric- Eric Striker, he's a fucking [Crosstalk]
Jesse Dunstan 00:19
Eric Striker is a fucking Puerto Rican. Fuck him.
Speaker 1 00:22
So was there a honeymoon period where you could tolerate him, or was it always like, no?
Jesse Dunstan 00:27
No, I always just had to keep my mouth shut. Fuck Eric Striker. He's a fuck- I don't ever want to have a conversation with an American about how like this or that Hispanic is actually white. Like, no, they're beaners. Eric Striker is a beaner. He's a fucking Puerto Rican. He's some kind of Argentinian. I don't care about these copes. I don't care what these copes about, like, Italian immigrants. He's not white. He's a fucking wannabe White Nationalist. He's a fucking beaner New York City immigrant fucking scum fucking gutter fucking fucking mudblood piece of shit fuck him.
Speaker 01:01
This is what happens is
Jesse Dunstan 01:03
Fuck him and all of his national socialist… Fuck him and his like- He's one of these fucking like Mexicans that like loves Hitler. That's what he is but he lives in America.
Speaker 1 01:13
There's a lot of those.
Speaker 01:14
He he does also occupy a wheelchair.
Speaker 01:19
That footage you saw from the-
Jesse Dunstan 01:21
No what he, what he, what he occupies is lifts inside of his boots because he's so self conscious
about how fucking short he is. Fucking manlet midget.
Randbot 01:31
I came to deal with how short I am.
Speaker 01:34
I met him once in 2017
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Managing of the McKevitt debacle, Telegram, etc. (4h-27m-30s)
Jesse Dunstan 00:06
The no brainer here is like your guy who's on the board got caught doing sexual impropriety with someone that he has authority over. That is an instant DQ. Like, you don't need, like, a written set of, like, code of conduct. You don't need anything. That's just basic, instinctual, everyone knows that that's not acceptable.
Randbot 00:25
You'd be surprised how many people had to explain that to me. Like Charlemagne had 10 wives? Are you the fucking King of France?
Jesse Dunstan 00:35
Yeah, there's, we're not the kings of France here. You know, it's like these are just no brainers like people aren't going to accept that you're going to lose people in droves, if that goes public. And then when you tried to sweep it under the rug and not deal with it, it goes public three months later, and it's a shit show. And then you have six Daily Rake articles about it, ripping you apart, and you deserve it. Because all you fucking had to do was demand his resignation, announce his resignation, make a corporate speak- make some kind of corporate speak press release that sort of says that, without much detail. And then all the rumors about it'll be like, "Okay, this is why he was gone." Because it's a no brainer. You're taking a position like this is not acceptable. You know? Like, there's this, like this, this guy, I used to be friends with the A-logs love to make fun of, and he's like, "I was friends with this dude, like, years ago. I haven't talked to him since since I lived in New York…."
Jesse Dunstan 01:30
Because when I – No, it's not Kinko. Kinko was awesome. I would- I would hang outBecause when I – No, it's not Kinko. Kinko was awesome. I would- I would hang out with[unintelligible]. It was a guy that, like, he left his wife. He was banging some other broad. He knocked some other broad up, and then it turns out like he's gay, and he's doing Only Fans porn. And like, it's like, this is like, what's like, "What the?" It's like, yeah, like, I threw that guy- Like, I haven't talked that guy in in almost four years. It's a no brainer. It's like, you can't put that on. Like, it's like fuck you. It's just easy. It's like yeah, like I'm not gonna make excuse for that. As soon as I call- It sort of- as soon as I caught wind of what [that was going on like total [de-foo?] and I wasn't even running a political organization. That was just because like bro, that's gross. Get the fuck out of here
Randbot 01:30
Kinko?
Randbot 02:12
Yeah, friend of mine turned into a tranny. I had to fucking de-foo that.
Jesse Dunstan 02:17
Oh, so there you go. Now you know your [unintelligible]. "Randbot is friends with trannys" right? Like, that's like "no like I don't fucking deal with that…"
Jesse Dunstan 02:25
Anyway I don't know if you know who – Daily Rake, Daily Rake, you know he's getting – I don't really know, I don't want to bad mouth the guy. The first article, like had a lot of – The first article had a lot of, you know, stuff in it that you can't really argue with about NJP. It's like yeah, like he's basically saying like, their PR strategy was terrible. It's like yes, it absolutely was because they were using the same PR strategy that we use with TRS. TRS is not a political vehicle that's trying to attain power. TRS is just like a bunch of chucklefucks doing podcasts. So if like somebody starts shitting on you, you just ignore them, you ban, remove, you do you do janny-isms against people that are trying to like move that shit forward and make you look bad and you just go on with these, keep your mouth shut. It's a better look. You don't need to be fighting with Andrew Anglin or or I can't think of another example. Roscoe Jones, you don't need to fight with Roscoe. Like, who fucking cares? You just let it go. But when you're doing a, re- doing a, when you're trying to be the lone voice as a political party for whites in America, you can't just clam up every time there's a scandal. You have to put your narrative out there somehow. And that's what the, that's what the Daily Rake started. And that's what I was – I think I was quoted in Spectre chats now, "all this shit is true and all this is right" now. Because it just objectively it was. It was a crisis of leadership. And I think everybody, I think everybody accepts that now. And basically it's – basically – and and you know, the thing that people keep forgetting is like – I understand you're mad you have every right to be mad – but it's like Mike and Warren have both come forward and accepted responsibility for that. Conte and Striker haven't. Conte and Striker is standing out on the sidelines trying to be like see, and trying to pretend like if only they were still around this wouldn't've and I was like, "No, you fuckers were just as complicit in all this. You were happy to go along with the same fucking approach. You were happy to go along with the same scandals. You're no better than them. In fact, you're worse because you're weird mentally ill spergs that got cast off early.."
Randbot 04:42
But they're never gonna say it that way though they're always going to like
Jesse Dunstan 04:47
Oh of course because they're always gonna demand – always – no. Especially Striker is going to play off his like internet celebrity that he has, where he has these, he has these like these extremely cringe fanboys online, which is I think one of the problems with Daily Rake because I think he's kind of one of them.
Randbot 05:01
Yes.
Jesse Dunstan 05:01
Because a lot of the stuff that I've seen in print is like Striker narrative. When Striker just lies, Striker is just being self serving-
Randbot 05:07
Where's he getting his information? He's getting it from somewhere.
Jesse Dunstan 05:08
He's getting it from Striker. And he quoted the McKevitts at length who are of course going to give you – This is the thing, right? Like the McKevitts give you a self serving bunch of narratives about what happened. And the NJP doesn't. Yeah, well, so what's gonna get printed?
Speaker 05:26
Yeah, that's why I think it's like kind of like, you know, self defeating to like, go after that guy. Because like, that's exactly what you're saying there is, that's all he's printing, right? Because those are the only people that are giving him anything.
Jesse Dunstan 05:38
Is there's no, there's no counter narrative.
Speaker 05:40
Yeah, it's like, he's the drama blogger, he writes about drama. So when drama happens, why would you be surprised that he's gonna write about it? Right?
Jesse Dunstan 05:47
Yeah. And especially if you're if you're not going to engage, well, the drama writing is just going to get done without you. And if you're gonna assume that, like, "Oh, that doesn't matter. No one reads that" it's like, well, actually, actually, everyone – you basically – the entire the entire White Nationalist scene is siloed off in the Telegram. So if you're losing on Telegram, you're just losing. That's basically what's going on these days. And if you're not making- if you're not making a massive effort outside of Telegram somewhere… And basically that would be like, like when we started saying last year at some point, or maybe was earlier this year that like "Telegram is bullshit". It's like, okay, that's fine. But you have to- you have to put your message somewhere.
Jesse Dunstan 06:29
You have to complement that by going outside of Telegram aggressively somewhere else to recruit. And that didn't happen. People just kept chatting on Telegram and telling themselves like, "Well, if we go if we go picket in front of a hockey game in Tennessee about this, the bet the 'tranifesto' week after it's out of the news cycle", that's going to be your- the recruiting, and you get these, like, this photograph of these two girls like making fun of you. It's like that's, it's sort of like, you have to make – the come, come up with another. You can't just say that like "Telegram is bad" and then not replace Telegram or something. You have to replace it and they didn't do that. That was the other thing.
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Management of funds between TRS and NJP…Eric Striker again (5h-22m-27s)
Jesse Dunstan 00:05
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold up. Yes, Watchtower says, "TRS subscriptions for NJP membership and no crossover funds pressing. Excellent." Yes. NJP compensated TRS by making sure that like, they weren't robbing Peter to pay Paul. If you are basically – every NJP subscriber, every NJP supporter was a TRS subscriber. And so if you convert it from TRS to NJP, NJP would theoretically, it was not exactly clean how they did this so TRS was never paid. But like yeah, basically NJP, if you if you gave them $30 a month, like they would kick back $10 of that to TRS, so the TRS wasn't getting hurt. But basically what that should have been is like, TRS would have been charging NJP for the right to access our customer lists to grift them for what NJP was doing, but I didn't do that. So I was a team player. I thought this was going to work, or I was hoping it was going to work.
Speaker 01:06
A lot of this seems to be based on trust. The way –
Jesse Dunstan 01:10
There was no trust. Tony was- Tony is a fucking grifter. Okay?
Speaker 01:14
Yeah, I'm saying the way it was set up. Like I'm saying it seems like he's
Jesse Dunstan 01:17
It was based on – it was based on trust basically – it was based on trust and I was abused. My trust was taking for granted. As you saw Eric Striker has referred to me as a parasite. That's what I'm thought of in this whole thing. [Crosstalk]
Randbot 01:30
– on that stage and the [unintelligible, crosstalk]. Anyone who has any understanding of this can just instantly dismiss anything Eric Striker has to – Randbot
Jesse Dunstan 01:39
…and go fucking drown in your whiskey. You need me. And you're fucking-
Jesse Dunstan 01:39
it's like, no, I'm, I'm the guy. I'm not the parasite. I'm the fucking host. None of this happened without me. [crosstalk] Mike, could you think – Mike could – Listen, Mike couldn't fucking file an LLC paperwork with any state he could not do it. I did it. Okay. These people were not capable of engaging with the government, engaging with the, with the tax apparatus of the system. They were not able to get an organization together. They needed someone else to do it. I did it for TRS. I was the guy. I'm not the fucking parasite. I'm the guy that made this all happen. Eric Striker couldn't fuck- Eric Stryker needs Mike Enoch to wipe his ass for him. Eric Striker needs his girlfriend to wipe his ass for him. He is a useless person. He's never worked a day in his life. Okay, he fucking wears the same dirty fucking t shirt every day and cries about how he needs to go to the gym because getting fat. It's like shut the fuck up…
Randbot 01:43
I wasn't gonna mention it before. But like, Eric looked like he did put on a lot of weight at the –
Jesse Dunstan 02:32
Yes, because he's a fucking shitbag. That's called a bag of shit. It's hanging in front of him. He's
a shitbag and he's expanding forever. He's a fucking retard. Fuck him.
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Long rant
Jesse Dunstan 00:04
Striker which I don't care about, [crosstalk] I don't give a fuck about Striker or what he thinks, or any of his fanboys think. He's a cancer. He is totally politically – he's a politi- he's political cancer he will never accomplish anything because all he can do is run his mouth while he was run his mouth and rile up like emotionally immature and intellectually immature people that are just kind of wowed by his willingness to say taboo things about Jews. The things he says are great, but he is a total dopamine addict, and all he – he just likes to be worshipped and these people fall for it. And it's terrible.
Randbot 00:44
Well that's why we have to put him in the autism journalism chamber.
Jesse Dunstan 00:47
Nope, that's why you put them in the no-no chamber. That's why you don't work with them anymore. That's why you can't that's why you … Randy? Randy? That's why you say you're so fucking great. You want to run something on your own? Build something yourself. Because never forget Striker came to my website. It was amazingly, massively popular. Okay? I didn't have to. I didn't have to fucking fake my stats on Alexa like Daily Stormer did. Our numbers were huge. We were the top thing. We still are. And Striker attached himself – Striker attached himself to what I was doing with Mike to make his mark on things. [crosstalk] And he calls it he calls me – and he calls me a parasite. It's like, "no, Striker you came into my thing. You horned in on what we had, to do your bullshit. And then you you were mad you couldn't take control of it because you're not the fucking boss. Mike's the boss."
Speaker 01:43
Not just that. He- he called – he also called fucking he called Alex a parasite and that, thatsticks in my craw too.
Speaker 01:49
that's an absolute fucking
Jesse Dunstan 01:52
It's like like, it's like motherfucker, man. No, no motherfucker. Me and Alex are the hosts. You're the parasite. NJP was the parasite. TRS is the host. You have nothing. NJP was built on the notoriety and the popularity of Mike Enoch that was built through TRS, which I'm a partner in, Alex is a partner in. You motherfuckers at NJP thought you were born on – thought you were born on third and thought hit a triple. No, I hit a triple. You did jack shit. You were Johnny Come Lately came along and you trolled Mike with that bullshit. "You know, no one's gonna listen to your podcast anymore. If they don't think you're doing anything." Bull fucking shit. We have the best podcast in the world on these politics, and everyone's gonna keep listening to it. Because it's the fucking best. NJP came along to fucking attach themselves to us like a leech. And they failed. And they dragged me down with them. My fucking subscribership has done nothing but drop since NJP was founded. Nothing but drop because they have alienated people. And they have made people think that if they're listening to TDS, they have a political obligation to be affiliated or allied with what these people want to do with their party. People that don't like it, people like Larry Ridgeway who don't want anything to do with it, is a fucking total parasitical relationship. I was hoping that it wouldn't work out this way. I fucking threw – I decided to be a team player, allow them to have – allow the NJP to have access to my audience for them to – I hate to use the G word – but to grift off my audience, turn them into paid supporters. And it didn't fucking work. It did not work over the course of fucking three and a half years, not basic- not 15% of TRS subscribers converted to NJP supporters, not 15%. And at the same time, our subscribership dropped because we added- because these people added nothing but exclusivity, purity spiraling and rejection of people who didn't 100% swallow the ideological dictates of Mike and Striker. And I part- I did participate in that. I was a dick during like the COVID stuff. What we should have done with COVID is just keep our mouth shut until was over. Because COVID gets like "Okay, great. COVID is fake."
Speaker 04:15
There were some great bits that came out of that though.
Jesse Dunstan 04:17
Yeah, "Fuck your small business" is a great bit, right? [crosstalk] You know how many people I lost? It wasn't a joke. People took it seriously. And I never would have- I would have never would have done that without the influence of these people. I'd never would have done that without – I never would have done that without what NJP was doing. NJ was pushing if you like "if you're doing COVID, you're not serious." It's like we don't want NJPs not serious.S
Speaker 2 04:47
What I was gonna say is that like is much respect that I have for Striker and his analysis and his research and all that stuff. It's still like what he did during that time in the organization like you were just talking about, Jesse.
Jesse Dunstan 05:00
What, destroy it? Ruin it? Just like alienate anyone who would possibly fucking support it? Hey, I'm sorry. I'm just gonna throw that in there.
Jesse Dunstan 05:08
I was obviously I'm doing you're doing you're doing [crosstalk]
Randbot 05:13
Time at Oxford wins.
Speaker 05:19
[crosstalk]
Jesse Dunstan 05:24
[crosstalk]
Speaker 05:27
I will fucking DoorDash you a fucking steak for your son.
Jesse Dunstan 05:32
Please get the bit out. Yeah, I can't I'm just I was doing I was doing a comedy bit is a joke. No.
Speaker 05:38
Well, what I was gonna say is that it's Schroedinger's Sword of Damocles.
Jesse Dunstan 05:44
Woah. That's complicated.
Jesse Dunstan 05:50
Schroedinger's Sword..
Randbot 05:55
Box. Obviously, joking about like the the autism journalist chamber. That was a building off of the know the real answer with with someone like that. The real answer is the correct one. And he just you just got to get rid of them. You can't, you're not going to get any productive labor out. And so the thing about the Ortiz to was in the autism train chamber, is they are actually getting productive labor out of them. And they were actually compliant like someone who is going to be like that. They're not going to get into the autism journalism chamber. No, because they have to run everything, even though they don't know how to run anything. And so you can't you just can't fucking work with someone like that.
Jesse Dunstan 06:46
No, okay. No, that is not true. I'm not a fuhrer. I know my place. This is what people get wrong. I am not like, I've seen this before when I-
Randbot 06:58
everyone wants to be stolen. Like that guy with the fucking shovel there. No,
Jesse Dunstan 07:03
No, no, no, I'm talking about, I'm talking about the audie- the error the audience makes. Just because the guy is making an impassioned speech that you're en- that you're enjoying, doesn't mean he's your leader. The difference? The difference between me and these people is that I know that I'm just an online content creator. I know that I'm not a leader. I know that I'm not capable of this stuff. So I don't bother. I don't try. These people are gassed up on- these people got gassed up on their online popularity, that they can be leaders. Just like "No, you're a fucking popular content creator. That's all you are. You have no business telling people what to do. Making demands for loyalty of people. You're an online fucking content creator. Ask for subscriptions, ask for super chats. Do your fucking political analysis. Do your fucking opinions. That is it. You're not fucking fit for anything else. You couldn't run a pet store." I at least helped run a paint store. And I know I cannot shepherd a new white political movement into this country that saves us. I know I can't do it. I can support one. I can try to inspire one with a stupid song. I can't lead one.
Speaker 08:18
Can I just be a political content enjoyer?Can I just be a political content enjoyer?
Jesse Dunstan 08:22
You can. Anybody can be anything that they want. That is the thing. The other thing about that is the scorn thrown on people that just want to enjoy the content. Why are you scorning them? Those people are going to be there for you someday, there might come a time where the content enjoyer decides to become a fucking soldier with you too. But you fucking throw shade on them like they're worthless.
Randbot 08:42
I'm inspired. I'm starting white paint store. We- we only paint your house.[crosstalk] Right right right.
Speaker 08:53
Now, right now, all of that having been said Randbot perhaps you could understand where I'm coming from when I approach the Larry's running right now [crosstalk]
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If I could go back in time (5h-36m-36s)
Jesse Dunstan 00:00
To me, okay, that's part of my question. So going forward, Mike mentioned they were going to have a meeting, have a sit down with all the people that are still around. Is there going to be some sort of consultation with you? I mean, at least I wouldn't be comfortable with that. Because, you know, a lot of this so-
Jesse Dunstan 00:20
I'm just I'm just a bitch.
Speaker 1 00:22
No,
Jesse Dunstan 00:22
I'm a conservative-
Speaker 1 00:23
You don't have to do that.
Jesse Dunstan 00:24
I'm nobody. I'm not- I'm not one of these people that pretends to be one of these learned, ideological fucking, high rolling fucking motherfuckers. No. No, I'm not one of these frauds like Warren or Stryker that pretends to be like, above everyone with like- No, fuck. These peopleWarren or Stryker that pretends to be like, above everyone with like- No, fuck. These people are all fucking frauds. And I've been fucking I've been…Actually I'm just gonna go full mask off now. Fuck all these people. They're all full of shit. Every last one of them is full of shit. They put on airs. We do a fucking podcast that was funny. And these people fucking ruined it. Ruined with their bullshit. They're ruined it with their airs. They can lead white people? These people couldn't fucking lead their dogs to go take his shit in the woods. These people are a mess.
Speaker 1 01:12
… if that's the case…
Jesse Dunstan 01:13
None of these people have any connection to any community. None of these people have a real family. None of these people like – People resent McNabb and I because we actually have a family, and we actually have community roots and connections. None of these other fucking fakers. These are people are all total online creations of their own fucking, of their own fucking imaginations. They fucking read Mein Kampf. They read like The Origins and Rise of the NSDAP. And they think that that matters. [Crosstalk] These people are absolute jokes. Their lives are a mess. My life is good. My life has always been good. I signed on with these people to do it because I was good at fucking talking shit. And I wanted a fake job. And I got a fake job doing a podcast three times a week. Where I could lay around and be lazy. And I earned that and I deserve that. And these people fucked it up. They fucked it up because they thought they were actually fucking doing something where they should have listened to Larry Ridgeway where it's like, no, I'm not doing anything. No, fuck that. This shit is all fake. The entire movement. This entire movement is designed by Jews. [Crosstalk] No, no no, this movement was designed by Jews to get Donald Trump elected. They got Donald Trump elected. And we're the remnants of it. In the fact these people can't get over that. Well, I can get over that. I can do the show every day. With the knowledge that like that's the best thing you can do. These guys can't get that over – they can't get over that. They're like "no, we're actually the Nazi party. We're actually like Hitler and Goebbels." It's like no, he's not. You're the guy with the half-Jew wife, and you're the fucking Puerto Rican in the wheelchair that no one likes. And you're the fucking salesman with the big forehead that lives in the middle of West Virginia, that fucking like has no connection to reality. And then like the other people just aren't even there. They don't even matter. [Crosstalk] This whole thing is a sham and it has ruined my life. And if I could go back in time, I would just sell paint and never been involved with this. It was absolute shit.
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Fuck your small Striker (3h-34m-33s)
Jesse Dunstan 00:05
Not one thing is starting – Striker released audio saying who did Strike and Mike [unintelligible] because it comes out there. No, sorry, Striker. Mike doesn't want to work with you. I don't want to work with you. You're not a team player. Good luck on whatever it is you start up on your own. He says that the reason he says he would like to Strike and Mike again, because then he doesn't have to run something on his own. He always needs somebody else to run his stuff. And he has the nerve to call me a parasite. When it's like, no nigger, I enabled you, Mike enabled you.
Randbot 00:35
He called you a parasite?
Jesse Dunstan 00:36
Do your own fucking thing. He called me a parasite. [crosstalk] Yep, I run everything for Mike and make sure Mike doesn't have to do all this stupid work. And Striker came on as like the co- host of the secondary show. Just because that show was kind of popular doesn't mean you get to call names like that. No. And basically, basically, you burned off – but Mike was the only person with any patience for Striker for years, and he finally burned – he finally burned out Mike last month. It's amazing. I was shocked. I had just basically, I had basically resigned myself to like, "Well, I'm just gonna have Striker in my company, doing this work, I'm going to be attached to striker for the rest of my life. Because Mike just – no matter what Striker does to him, no matter what Striker does to us, it's just always going to be." And then I was shocked and he told me like Yep, he's finally hit the last straw. I was like, okay, so. Striker's trying to play this game where it's like there's some kind of ideological this. It's like no, it's not an ideological stand. It's an autism. You're mentally ill crazy person. And I don't want anything to do with you. I'm not paying you. I'm not hiring you. I don't give a fuck. And if Mike takes control of anything, he doesn't want to work with you either. He won't say it out loud because Mike is always Mr. Diplomacy, but like I don't need to do that. I never wanted anything to do with you.You were put upon me. You're another thing that I didn't want to do. Just like NJP. I didn't want to do it. I also didn't want to do Striker. But there you were. You're finally gone and I'm happy. You're a fucking political poison. So go start your own thing. Have somebody else code you a website. Have no parasite and see how far you get.
Randbot 00:57
All right. Well, I suppose that's the definitive on
Jesse Dunstan 02:28
Fuck striker. And his degenerate ass. Johnny probably wasn't wrong. I just sit here and fucking defend that asshole. Because Johnny turned on all of us.
Randbot 02:42
Well, Johnny was also a massive
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Ban the ADL, fuck stickers, remembers the NJP (3h-49m-20s)
Jesse Dunstan 00:06
It has not been pleasant. And in this content fucking suffered for the last three and a half years, we were forced to be "no fun facts" because we have to police people's ideology. We have to police what people think about events that don't fucking matter. Like everything that came around that wasn't like an explicitly racial issue or political issue. Like we're supposed to like, you know what, a couple months ago when like Keith Woods was doing hashtag "Ban the ADL", we could have just laughed along with that and had a good time. There was no reason to be "no fun facts" and yelling and screaming. But that was like the Eric Striker, Tony Hovater NJP attitude like anybody who's fucking, not completely pure, on the up – up at 100% of the time, has to go. And they're pieces of shit and they're not good enough for us. You know what? Hashtag "Ban the ADL" was fucking funny. I don't care. I know, it was fake. I know. It was never gonna go anywhere. But that was a great fucking little campaign they did. It was hilarious. Had a good laugh at it. But they had Eric Striker out there crying about it sour grapes, that he couldn't make a fucking impact on the political-
Jesse Dunstan 01:11
You know, everything that Eric is mad about? Like, they're all fucking debates that you've lost in the public space, because NJP these guys all retreated into the Telegram silos just like the Jews wanted them to. And then they told themselves that the Internet – that the Internet didn't matter anymore. Internet doesn't matter. It's all fake. It's all this. It's all that it's like, yeah, well, guess what? It's real when the only people that are going to like be interested in what you're doing are on the internet. You go out into the real world and IRL and nobody actually does it. You've got a – you've got a fucking organization of extremely online people who are well meaning. They all believe in what they're doing. They all believe in what they're saying. They don't believe in the cause. But they take all their beliefs and they take all of their – they take all their inspiration, and they pour it into Telegram chats. And they occasionally organized like ramshackle like 20- to 40-man protests a week after a story is past and out of the news cycle. And tell themselves like we're recruiting people. It's like, No, you're not. It's just not happening.It's not happening. There's not – they're trying to buy things that they can't afford. I was talking to Warren the other day about protesting. Ah, you know what, nevermind, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go into it. It's a private conversation. Yeah, but like, yeah, people just want to talk about like, Oh, you just
Jesse Dunstan 02:38
want a podcast on your podcast, or like just a podcast version? Do you know the fucking impact his podcast has had over the last eight years? Do you know what the Daily Shoah has accomplished? Like can you just poopoo that? Why? Because you want to go fucking put a sticker on something. Fuck you and your sticker. The fuck – my my fucking my fucking – like my Henry Rollins bit has fucking done more for white people than any sticker you've ever stuck anywhere. [crosstalk] All the stickers on the world can't add up the Chateau Autiste. The recruiting towards pro white politics that our content has done over the years cannot be matched by anything anybody's done IRL. The fucking podcast inspired people to go IRL right? And they fucking so quick to forget. People that do nothing but listen to podcasts want to be like, "Oh, all you want to do is podcast?" Like all you do is listen to them. You listen to them and complain and you go like, I'm gonna form a picket line hanging a sticker. Good for you. This is where Larry's got you beat. Larry Ridgeway sits in his house drinks beer plays shitty music and does comedy bits. And it's like he's accomplished the same as these protests. He's accomplished the same as stickers. That's the harsh truth.
Randbot 03:26
People really did like the the Waukesha thing that did get some traction. Yeah,
Jesse Dunstan 03:58
People liked it. It didn't get any traction. It went nowhere. What are the tangible results from that? I'm not poo-pooing it. It was a worthy cause. The Waukesha fucking terror attack was disgusting. And this disgusting anti white system just let it go. And yeah, it was absolutely right to make noise about it. But in the end, it didn't put pressure. It didn't put any pressure on anybody that had any power in this country to do anything. It didn't. Just all it did was it made feel – it made people feel better that they felt like they were engaged and – I can't deny you that, but it's like in reality, in actual reality in politics, it didn't do anything. [crosstalk]. It's very sad. I think not happy about that. I'm not happy about that. I'm, I just want to – I want to- I have to keep putting disclaimers here, like I'm not happy about these things. I'm not doing this. I'm not saying this with any kind of glee. I'm not rubbing it in your nose. I'm not saying that your hard work was unappreciated. I'm not saying that like that, you're like, you're some kind of like dumb ass that shoulda, I'm not saying that. I'm saying the harsh reality of our situation as a race, as a people in this country, is that that shit didn't get anything done. Nobody cared. We have to figure out what is going to make people care. Alright? The NJP went down to I can't remember the little girl's name? Where this crazy nigger just opened fire in the front yard? [crosstalk] Jamie. What was his name? Jamie. The father that took the bullet for his daughter?
Speaker 05:2405:24
Oh shit, you know? Yeah. You don't
Speaker 05:27
You don't remember his name and he doesn't remember our name. But
Speaker 05:47
[crosstalk]
Jesse Dunstan 05:50
that's not the point I'm making. In Jupiter Paulson, where's the NJP stronghold in that community? It's not there. It's still just Peter Tefft.
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Activism sucks (5h-00m-26s)
Jesse Dunstan 00:08
Somebody is somebody somewhere has felt – Like the the biggest problem that this movement has right now is millennials and xers like myself, who still believe in like the cargo cult, Hollywood version of 60s activism. Like, protests are not going to do anything. The system doesn't care. You can protest all you want, people hate you when you protest. If you're, if you're doing a protest that aligns with the system's ideology, you will be like, celebrated and covered for. If you're doing a real protest on behalf of people, that's populist, they will block it out, they will Black it out, you won't get any more. So I don't know what has happened. I've been saying this for fucking years.
Randbot 00:50
I don't know, I think it's this issue.
Jesse Dunstan 00:53
And that's what Warren is going to go out and do? See, this is the thing. Like Warren has, like sat in the background. Not really getting his hands dirty. So there's another, there's another like thread to what's going on here, is like that Warren is some kind of savior. It's like no, like, you think Warren is the Savior because you don't know Warren, because Warren stays behind and is a good soldier. And basically, like when the order comes from Mike, whatever, like he goes with it. He's a good fascist in that way. But it's like
Speaker 01:25
i don't understand the critique there. You're saying Warren is good.
Jesse Dunstan 01:30
Warren is good under leadership. Warren won't-
Speaker 01:33
I've been thinking about this for a long, long fucking time. And like, yeah, there's gotta be, there's gotta be a different M.O., in it
Jesse Dunstan 01:43
Completely different.
Speaker 01:45
There's got to be a different way to go about this. And it's not it doesn't involve like, as much like Alex was saying on the boards the other day. It's like, it's it doesn't involve like, obviously, we all love Hitler and whatnot. But we live in a completely different dynamic right now. We live in a complete way of thinking. We have to find a different way to go about doing this. And I don't fucking know how to do it. [crosstalk]
Jesse Dunstan 02:16
or these people these people want to these people want to continue retreading cargo culting the Hollywood version of 60s Anti Vietnam era activism, [crosstalk]
Speaker 02:26
I just wanna know what an organic fucking movement would look like. Yes. Like every example we have is something that was literally fucking top down fake and gay.
Jesse Dunstan 02:42
Exactly. Let me tell you, like, let me tell you the 20- the 2016. The thing that we're the remnant of was a fake and gay top down Jewish movement: the 2016 the "Alt right", was a spun up fake Jewish movement to get Donald Trump elected. We played our part, we fell for it. And now we're here. That's what this is. The games we thought we made were fake. The games we thought we made were Jewish [crosstlak] Hold up. We were the pawns of the [unintelligible] fucking movement to get Donald Trump elected to normalize the, the Dolan Heights, fucking settlements and all that stuff and to do the Abraham Abraham accords. That is exactly what we were spun up for. Donald Trump came in because because these Jews knew that Jeb Bush was not going to inspire a right wing conservatives Zionist movement in America that would support that kind of shit. They knew that the key to getting a real nigga in the White House was to do pro-white shit and Donald Trump did it. Donald Trump betrayed us. It was entirely a fucking op. And they have no compunction about taking someone like Ricky Vaughn and throwing him injail for his role in it because that's how these Jews operate. They don't give a fuck. So that's the other part of this movement, this movement, this entire movement is fake because of that. And people don't want to fucking swallow that. People don't want to acknowledge that. They want to think that what we did was real. It wasn't real. We were allowed to do that. We were promoted by powerful Jews to do that stuff. Again. It's another case for the Jews. Put us on third base and we all thought we were fucking with that – we all thought we hit a triple. We did not. Everything we've done, we've been the pawns of kikes. We've been the pawns of Zionist kikes [crosstalk}
Randbot 04:31
Everything that's been their undoing is shit that they spin up. I mean that's why they've got their fucking story about the Gollum well as a warning thing.
